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		<title>Jens: Jens moved page Talk:Traffic Control Service to Talk:Vessel traffic service area: accoring to IMO and S-101,</title>
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		<updated>2017-07-13T05:10:39Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jens moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/npubwiki/wiki/index.php/Talk:Traffic_Control_Service&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Traffic Control Service&quot;&gt;Talk:Traffic Control Service&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/npubwiki/wiki/index.php/Talk:Vessel_traffic_service_area&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Vessel traffic service area&quot;&gt;Talk:Vessel traffic service area&lt;/a&gt;: accoring to IMO and S-101,&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Jens: Jens moved page Talk:MRNSRV to Talk:Traffic Control Service</title>
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		<updated>2015-02-20T05:53:16Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Jens moved page &lt;a href=&quot;/npubwiki/wiki/index.php/Talk:MRNSRV&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:MRNSRV&quot;&gt;Talk:MRNSRV&lt;/a&gt; to &lt;a href=&quot;/npubwiki/wiki/index.php/Talk:Traffic_Control_Service&quot; class=&quot;mw-redirect&quot; title=&quot;Talk:Traffic Control Service&quot;&gt;Talk:Traffic Control Service&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>Jens at 16:33, 10 September 2012</title>
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		<updated>2012-09-10T16:33:28Z</updated>

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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Rmm|raphael]] 02:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC): MPA mapping for NOAA dataset has attribute [[CATREP]] bound to MRNSRV but it is not bound in the Wiki.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt; &lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;background-color: #f8f9fa; color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #eaecf0; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;[[User:Rmm|raphael]] 02:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC): MPA mapping for NOAA dataset has attribute [[CATREP]] bound to MRNSRV but it is not bound in the Wiki.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;−&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #ffe49c; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Submitted  &lt;/del&gt;to &lt;del class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;Nav register manager	Date&lt;/del&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td class=&#039;diff-marker&#039;&gt;+&lt;/td&gt;&lt;td style=&quot;color: #202122; font-size: 88%; border-style: solid; border-width: 1px 1px 1px 4px; border-radius: 0.33em; border-color: #a3d3ff; vertical-align: top; white-space: pre-wrap;&quot;&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;[[User:Jens|jens]] 16:33, 10 September 2012 (UTC) Raphael, Please ccan you send me the NOAA file back and highlight the relevant part. I think I have &lt;/ins&gt;to &lt;ins class=&quot;diffchange diffchange-inline&quot;&gt;introduce a [[SHPREP]] association to MRNSRV. [[SHPREP]] will carry the [[CATREP]] attribute. It is possible that I accidentally bypassed the intended construction.&lt;/ins&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;
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		<title>Rmm at 02:00, 10 September 2012</title>
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		<updated>2012-09-10T02:00:02Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Drafted by  before SNPWG 6	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Da 17.08.2006	I prefer this to be an Information object and the associated geographic object is Service Area “srcare”.  This allows the service details to be provided even if we do not know the limits of the srvare svcare; Changed notice to ntctim; rgdata deleted;	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Northern 7.Nov. 2006	Rgdata: see our comments under authority&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where do we need rgdata if not here????  David replied Need to discuss rgdata&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Service area:&lt;br /&gt;
We do not found service areas somewhere on the files.   Fixed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Info objects always must be associated with a geo object. Therefore Davids argumentation will not work.&lt;br /&gt;
Changed abbreviation of prcdre (see Attribute list)  Accepted&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
DA 13 Dec 06  	Should have been svcare. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Do not believe that Pilotage should be included here as it covered by pltsrv. Distinction: add pltsrv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 29.01.07	David, have done your work for you	&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
SNPWG 7	Done some work		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 19.02	added rgdata and catrgd as attributes &lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.07.07	cntltw added		&lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 05.11.2007	added shprep, shprep carries catrgd; catrep; nctim; rgdata;  therefore some of them deleted here		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 04.01. 2008	added condet; telcom		&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.01.	question mark to Ref M3	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
WEG 12 Feb 08	[[calnam]]; CALSGN;; COMCHA; inserted in place of telcom.  Not sure about cntltw.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DA 9 Aug 08  There is a case for [[calnam]] to be in [[condet]].  If agreed we can take [[calnam]] off here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DavidAcland|DavidAcland]] 16:08, 18 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Started checking attributes and found svaprc to be frmtxt.  Therefore changed it to TXTDSC ... &lt;br /&gt;
But ... it seems to me now that this is redundant.  All we need to do is use TXTDSC and NTXTDS.  So we need an entry in Remarks to put in the encoding guide that the Service Access Prodecdure is described in TXTDSC and NTXTDS, and delete svaprc. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Jens|jens]] 14:00, 19 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good point David. The only wrong thing is, that this argument could work for all our Information objects too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see this problem a bit different. We all know that it will be a challenge for ECDIS systems to check the content of the extenal files referenced by TXT... &lt;br /&gt;
However, if we are able to limit the intention of the content by using attributes or even inf object seems to me is helpful.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DavidAcland|DavidAcland]] 12:45, 20 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OK. I changed the [[svaprc]] attribute type to S.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Jens|jens]] 12:16, 19 September 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
replaced cntltw by &amp;lt;rlstwt&amp;gt;. Having had a long discussion with David about the intention of the listening watch and decided finally to replace by requirements for maintenance of listening watch which fits our ideas much better. Sent cntltw  to deleted items &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By David. 23 Sep 08&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens.  I have taken your &amp;lt;rlstwt&amp;gt; above to be &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[rmltwt]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. I have amended the Definiton of [[rmltwt]] a touch.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Rmm|raphael]] 02:00, 10 September 2012 (UTC): MPA mapping for NOAA dataset has attribute [[CATREP]] bound to MRNSRV but it is not bound in the Wiki.&lt;br /&gt;
				&lt;br /&gt;
Submitted to Hydro register manager	Date&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Submitted  to Nav register manager	Date&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Rmm</name></author>
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		<title>Jens at 16:48, 28 September 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-09-28T16:48:58Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Drafted by  before SNPWG 6	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Da 17.08.2006	I prefer this to be an Information object and the associated geographic object is Service Area “srcare”.  This allows the service details to be provided even if we do not know the limits of the srvare svcare; Changed notice to ntctim; rgdata deleted;	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Northern 7.Nov. 2006	Rgdata: see our comments under authority&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where do we need rgdata if not here????  David replied Need to discuss rgdata&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Service area:&lt;br /&gt;
We do not found service areas somewhere on the files.   Fixed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Info objects always must be associated with a geo object. Therefore Davids argumentation will not work.&lt;br /&gt;
Changed abbreviation of prcdre (see Attribute list)  Accepted&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
DA 13 Dec 06  	Should have been svcare. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Do not believe that Pilotage should be included here as it covered by pltsrv. Distinction: add pltsrv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 29.01.07	David, have done your work for you	&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
SNPWG 7	Done some work		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 19.02	added rgdata and catrgd as attributes &lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.07.07	cntltw added		&lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 05.11.2007	added shprep, shprep carries catrgd; catrep; nctim; rgdata;  therefore some of them deleted here		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 04.01. 2008	added condet; telcom		&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.01.	question mark to Ref M3	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
WEG 12 Feb 08	[[calnam]]; CALSGN;; COMCHA; inserted in place of telcom.  Not sure about cntltw.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DA 9 Aug 08  There is a case for [[calnam]] to be in [[condet]].  If agreed we can take [[calnam]] off here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DavidAcland|DavidAcland]] 16:08, 18 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Started checking attributes and found svaprc to be frmtxt.  Therefore changed it to TXTDSC ... &lt;br /&gt;
But ... it seems to me now that this is redundant.  All we need to do is use TXTDSC and NTXTDS.  So we need an entry in Remarks to put in the encoding guide that the Service Access Prodecdure is described in TXTDSC and NTXTDS, and delete svaprc. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Jens|jens]] 14:00, 19 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good point David. The only wrong thing is, that this argument could work for all our Information objects too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see this problem a bit different. We all know that it will be a challenge for ECDIS systems to check the content of the extenal files referenced by TXT... &lt;br /&gt;
However, if we are able to limit the intention of the content by using attributes or even inf object seems to me is helpful.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DavidAcland|DavidAcland]] 12:45, 20 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
OK. I changed the [[svaprc]] attribute type to S.  &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Jens|jens]] 12:16, 19 September 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
replaced cntltw by &amp;lt;rlstwt&amp;gt;. Having had a long discussion with David about the intention of the listening watch and decided finally to replace by requirements for maintenance of listening watch which fits our ideas much better. Sent cntltw  to deleted items &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
By David. 23 Sep 08&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens.  I have taken your &amp;lt;rlstwt&amp;gt; above to be &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;[[rmltwt]]&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. I have amended the Definiton of [[rmltwt]] a touch.&lt;br /&gt;
				&lt;br /&gt;
Submitted to Hydro register manager	Date&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Submitted  to Nav register manager	Date&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jens</name></author>
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		<title>Jens at 10:16, 19 September 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-09-19T10:16:14Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Drafted by  before SNPWG 6	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Da 17.08.2006	I prefer this to be an Information object and the associated geographic object is Service Area “srcare”.  This allows the service details to be provided even if we do not know the limits of the srvare svcare; Changed notice to ntctim; rgdata deleted;	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Northern 7.Nov. 2006	Rgdata: see our comments under authority&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where do we need rgdata if not here????  David replied Need to discuss rgdata&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Service area:&lt;br /&gt;
We do not found service areas somewhere on the files.   Fixed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Info objects always must be associated with a geo object. Therefore Davids argumentation will not work.&lt;br /&gt;
Changed abbreviation of prcdre (see Attribute list)  Accepted&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
DA 13 Dec 06  	Should have been svcare. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Do not believe that Pilotage should be included here as it covered by pltsrv. Distinction: add pltsrv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 29.01.07	David, have done your work for you	&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
SNPWG 7	Done some work		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 19.02	added rgdata and catrgd as attributes &lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.07.07	cntltw added		&lt;br /&gt;
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Jens 05.11.2007	added shprep, shprep carries catrgd; catrep; nctim; rgdata;  therefore some of them deleted here		&lt;br /&gt;
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Jens 04.01. 2008	added condet; telcom		&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.01.	question mark to Ref M3	&lt;br /&gt;
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WEG 12 Feb 08	[[calnam]]; CALSGN;; COMCHA; inserted in place of telcom.  Not sure about cntltw.&lt;br /&gt;
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DA 9 Aug 08  There is a case for [[calnam]] to be in [[condet]].  If agreed we can take [[calnam]] off here.&lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:DavidAcland|DavidAcland]] 16:08, 18 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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Started checking attributes and found svaprc to be frmtxt.  Therefore changed it to TXTDSC ... &lt;br /&gt;
But ... it seems to me now that this is redundant.  All we need to do is use TXTDSC and NTXTDS.  So we need an entry in Remarks to put in the encoding guide that the Service Access Prodecdure is described in TXTDSC and NTXTDS, and delete svaprc. &lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Jens|jens]] 14:00, 19 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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good point David. The only wrong thing is, that this argument could work for all our Information objects too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see this problem a bit different. We all know that it will be a challenge for ECDIS systems to check the content of the extenal files referenced by TXT... &lt;br /&gt;
However, if we are able to limit the intention of the content by using attributes or even inf object seems to me is helpful.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DavidAcland|DavidAcland]] 12:45, 20 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
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OK. I changed the [[svaprc]] attribute type to S.  &lt;br /&gt;
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[[User:Jens|jens]] 12:16, 19 September 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
replaced cntltw by rlstwt. Having had a long discussion with David about the intention of the listening watch and decided finally to replace by requirements for maintenance of listening watch which fits our ideas much better. Sent cntltw  to deleted items &lt;br /&gt;
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Submitted to Hydro register manager	Date&lt;br /&gt;
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Submitted  to Nav register manager	Date&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jens</name></author>
	</entry>
	<entry>
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		<title>Jens at 12:00, 19 August 2008</title>
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		<updated>2008-08-19T12:00:50Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Drafted by  before SNPWG 6	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Da 17.08.2006	I prefer this to be an Information object and the associated geographic object is Service Area “srcare”.  This allows the service details to be provided even if we do not know the limits of the srvare svcare; Changed notice to ntctim; rgdata deleted;	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Northern 7.Nov. 2006	Rgdata: see our comments under authority&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where do we need rgdata if not here????  David replied Need to discuss rgdata&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Service area:&lt;br /&gt;
We do not found service areas somewhere on the files.   Fixed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Info objects always must be associated with a geo object. Therefore Davids argumentation will not work.&lt;br /&gt;
Changed abbreviation of prcdre (see Attribute list)  Accepted&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
DA 13 Dec 06  	Should have been svcare. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Do not believe that Pilotage should be included here as it covered by pltsrv. Distinction: add pltsrv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 29.01.07	David, have done your work for you	&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
SNPWG 7	Done some work		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 19.02	added rgdata and catrgd as attributes &lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.07.07	cntltw added		&lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 05.11.2007	added shprep, shprep carries catrgd; catrep; nctim; rgdata;  therefore some of them deleted here		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 04.01. 2008	added condet; telcom		&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.01.	question mark to Ref M3	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
WEG 12 Feb 08	[[calnam]]; CALSGN;; COMCHA; inserted in place of telcom.  Not sure about cntltw.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
DA 9 Aug 08  There is a case for [[calnam]] to be in [[condet]].  If agreed we can take [[calnam]] off here.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:DavidAcland|DavidAcland]] 16:08, 18 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Started checking attributes and found svaprc to be frmtxt.  Therefore changed it to TXTDSC ... &lt;br /&gt;
But ... it seems to me now that this is redundant.  All we need to do is use TXTDSC and NTXTDS.  So we need an entry in Remarks to put in the encoding guide that the Service Access Prodecdure is described in TXTDSC and NTXTDS, and delete svaprc. &lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[User:Jens|jens]] 14:00, 19 August 2008 (CEST)&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
good point David. The only wrong thing is, that this argument could work for all our Information objects too.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
I see this problem a bit different. We all know that it will be a challenge for ECDIS systems to check the content of the extenal files referenced by TXT... &lt;br /&gt;
However, if we are able to limit the intention of the content by using attributes or even inf object seems to me is helpful.   &lt;br /&gt;
				&lt;br /&gt;
Submitted to Hydro register manager	Date&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Submitted  to Nav register manager	Date&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jens</name></author>
	</entry>
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		<title>Jens: New page: Drafted by  before SNPWG 6	  Da 17.08.2006	I prefer this to be an Information object and the associated geographic object is Service Area “srcare”.  This allows the service details to ...</title>
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		<updated>2008-08-08T13:41:01Z</updated>

		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;New page: Drafted by  before SNPWG 6	  Da 17.08.2006	I prefer this to be an Information object and the associated geographic object is Service Area “srcare”.  This allows the service details to ...&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;Drafted by  before SNPWG 6	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Da 17.08.2006	I prefer this to be an Information object and the associated geographic object is Service Area “srcare”.  This allows the service details to be provided even if we do not know the limits of the srvare svcare; Changed notice to ntctim; rgdata deleted;	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Northern 7.Nov. 2006	Rgdata: see our comments under authority&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Where do we need rgdata if not here????  David replied Need to discuss rgdata&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Service area:&lt;br /&gt;
We do not found service areas somewhere on the files.   Fixed&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Info objects always must be associated with a geo object. Therefore Davids argumentation will not work.&lt;br /&gt;
Changed abbreviation of prcdre (see Attribute list)  Accepted&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
DA 13 Dec 06  	Should have been svcare. &lt;br /&gt;
 &lt;br /&gt;
Do not believe that Pilotage should be included here as it covered by pltsrv. Distinction: add pltsrv&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 29.01.07	David, have done your work for you	&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
SNPWG 7	Done some work		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 19.02	added rgdata and catrgd as attributes &lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.07.07	cntltw added		&lt;br /&gt;
		&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 05.11.2007	added shprep, shprep carries catrgd; catrep; nctim; rgdata;  therefore some of them deleted here		&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 04.01. 2008	added condet; telcom		&lt;br /&gt;
	&lt;br /&gt;
Jens 11.01.	question mark to Ref M3	&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
WEG 12 Feb 08	calnam; CALSGN;; COMCHA; inserted in place of telcom.  Not sure about cntltw.		&lt;br /&gt;
				&lt;br /&gt;
Submitted to Hydro register manager	Date&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
Submitted  to Nav register manager	Date&lt;/div&gt;</summary>
		<author><name>Jens</name></author>
	</entry>
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