Talk:CATVSL 2 - Revision history

Rmm at 00:25, 7 February 2017

2017-02-07T00:25:10Z

Jens at 09:18, 19 June 2014

2014-06-19T09:18:22Z

Jens at 05:27, 9 May 2012

2012-05-09T05:27:41Z

New page

we need to add a general term for offshore vessels/platforms/jack-ups/ or whatever has to do with rigs, wind farms, tidal current etc.

[[User:DavidAcland|DavidAcland]] 11:53, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

I have added a definiton, semi-submersible and jackup.

I have not addressed the tidal current installation itself. These are currently charted as Turbine with a depth.

[[User:Jens|jens]] 05:27, 9 May 2012 (UTC) I agree. Turbines are a different story. My intention was to cover service vessels of those installations. I assume that is covered sufficiently with jackup and semi-submersible.

SNPWG: New page: we need to add a general term for offshore vessels/platforms/jack-ups/ or whatever has to do with rigs, wind farms, tidal current etc.

2012-05-04T11:55:23Z

New page: we need to add a general term for offshore vessels/platforms/jack-ups/ or whatever has to do with rigs, wind farms, tidal current etc.

New page

we need to add a general term for offshore vessels/platforms/jack-ups/ or whatever has to do with rigs, wind farms, tidal current etc.

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	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] 21:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC): The work items plan for MPA product spec after SNPWG 17 discussed making this a codelist (presumably an open enumeration), the page needs to be updated accordingly.		[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] 21:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC): The work items plan for MPA product spec after SNPWG 17 discussed making this a codelist (presumably an open enumeration), the page needs to be updated accordingly.
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 01:25, 7 February 2017 (CET): I continued the discussion on the [[CATVSL]] page before noticing this page. Anyway the discussion from [[Talk:CATVSL]] is copied below for reference.
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 08:25, 19 January 2017 (CET): New proposed listed values. (I see Jens had proposed recreation craft in 2011...)
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		+	13: light recreational
		+	<br>a pleasure boat or watercraft, or an excursion vessel used for short cruises such as whale watching
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		+	14: heavy lift
		+	<br>a vessel designed to move very large loads that cannot be handled by normal ships
		+	<br>(Wikipedia). See also [[Talk:CATCGO\|CATCGO discussion]].
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		+	[[User:Jens\|jens]] ([[User talk:Jens\|talk]]) 07:20, 23 January 2017 (CET) I agree with recreational but have use case problems with heavy lift. So. recreational added to the list
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 18:31, 23 January 2017 (CET): OK. Awaiting input on a use case for 'heavy lift' from other NIPWG members.
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 20:06, 1 February 2017 (CET): This was changed from enumeration to an open enumeration codelist in 2014 (see the S-122 figure 'Defining Vessel Categories...' on the [[SNPWG2\|UML diagrams]] page.
		+	* The main page still says 'enumeration', it should be updated.
		+	* Since it is an open enumeration codelist, other vessel types can be indicated using the 'other: xyz' formulation.
		+	* Use of the 'other: xyz' formulation is supposed to be '''by agreement'''. It is not carte blanche for individual encoders or data producers to add anything they want. While a suitable process has not yet been defined, my own view is any such 'extra' value must be brought before the S-122 project team and/or NIPWG (though not necessarily approved by them), and have the support of at least three stakeholders (producers or OEMs) before it can be used.
		+	* If a particular 'other: xyz' type becomes widely used, consideration should be given to making it a listed value via the process for revising the product specification.
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		+	I also suggest adding 'sport fishing' to the definition of 'light recreational' on the theory that this is one subcategory to which protected area rules are important.
		+	<br/>(Eivind says sport fishing might require its own category, likely there will be significantly different regulations applying to sport fishing over a pleasure boat. Tentatively not broken out separately, pending further comments from others.)
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		+	Proposed revised definition of 'light recreational': a pleasure boat or watercraft, sport fishing boat, or an excursion vessel used for short cruises such as whale watching
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 23:55, 3 February 2017 (CET): Proposed definition for the attribute: Classification of vessels by function or use.
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 01:25, 7 February 2017 (CET): I notice that we added two new listed values to [[CATVSL_2]] for ''semi-submersible offshore installation'' and ''jackup exploration or project installation''. ''light recreational'' should be added to this list.

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	[[User:Jens\|jens]] 05:27, 9 May 2012 (UTC) I agree. Turbines are a different story. My intention was to cover service vessels of those installations. I assume that is covered sufficiently with jackup and semi-submersible.		[[User:Jens\|jens]] 05:27, 9 May 2012 (UTC) I agree. Turbines are a different story. My intention was to cover service vessels of those installations. I assume that is covered sufficiently with jackup and semi-submersible.
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] 21:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC): The work items plan for MPA product spec after SNPWG 17 discussed making this a codelist (presumably an open enumeration), the page needs to be updated accordingly.