Talk:CATVSL - Revision history

Rmm at 03:18, 6 February 2017

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Rmm at 22:55, 3 February 2017

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Rmm at 19:12, 1 February 2017

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Rmm at 19:06, 1 February 2017

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Rmm at 17:31, 23 January 2017

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Jens at 06:20, 23 January 2017

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Rmm at 07:25, 19 January 2017

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Jens at 09:17, 19 June 2014

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Rmm at 21:53, 2 June 2014

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Rmm at 21:42, 2 June 2014

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 I also suggest adding 'sport fishing' to the definition of 'light recreational' on the theory that this is one subcategory to which protected area rules are important.
 Proposed revised definition of 'light recreational': a pleasure boat or watercraft, sport fishing boat, or an excursion vessel used for short cruises such as whale watching
 [[User:Rmm|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm|talk]]) 23:55, 3 February 2017 (CET): Proposed definition for the attribute: Classification of vessels by function or use.

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	I also suggest adding 'sport fishing' to the definition of 'light recreational' on the theory that this is one subcategory to which protected area rules are important.		I also suggest adding 'sport fishing' to the definition of 'light recreational' on the theory that this is one subcategory to which protected area rules are important.

−	Proposed revised definition: a pleasure boat or watercraft, sport fishing boat, or an excursion vessel used for short cruises such as whale watching	+	Proposed revised definition of 'light recreational': a pleasure boat or watercraft, sport fishing boat, or an excursion vessel used for short cruises such as whale watching
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 23:55, 3 February 2017 (CET): Proposed definition for the attribute: Classification of vessels by function or use.

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	* Use of the 'other: xyz' formulation is supposed to be '''by agreement'''. It is not carte blanche for individual encoders or data producers to add anything they want. While a suitable process has not yet been defined, my own view is any such 'extra' value must be brought before the S-122 project team and/or NIPWG (though not necessarily approved by them), and have the support of at least three stakeholders (producers or OEMs) before it can be used.		* Use of the 'other: xyz' formulation is supposed to be '''by agreement'''. It is not carte blanche for individual encoders or data producers to add anything they want. While a suitable process has not yet been defined, my own view is any such 'extra' value must be brought before the S-122 project team and/or NIPWG (though not necessarily approved by them), and have the support of at least three stakeholders (producers or OEMs) before it can be used.
	* If a particular 'other: xyz' type becomes widely used, consideration should be given to making it a listed value via the process for revising the product specification.		* If a particular 'other: xyz' type becomes widely used, consideration should be given to making it a listed value via the process for revising the product specification.
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		+	I also suggest adding 'sport fishing' to the definition of 'light recreational' on the theory that this is one subcategory to which protected area rules are important.
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		+	Proposed revised definition: a pleasure boat or watercraft, sport fishing boat, or an excursion vessel used for short cruises such as whale watching

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	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 18:31, 23 January 2017 (CET): OK. Awaiting input on a use case for 'heavy lift' from other NIPWG members.		[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 18:31, 23 January 2017 (CET): OK. Awaiting input on a use case for 'heavy lift' from other NIPWG members.
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 20:06, 1 February 2017 (CET): This was changed from enumeration to an open enumeration codelist in 2014 (see the S-122 figure 'Defining Vessel Categories...' on the [[SNPWG2\|UML diagrams]] page.
		+	* The main page still says 'enumeration', it should be updated.
		+	* Since it is an open enumeration codelist, other vessel types can be indicated using the 'other: xyz' formulation.
		+	* Use of the 'other: xyz' formulation is supposed to be '''by agreement'''. It is not carte blanche for individual encoders or data producers to add anything they want. While a suitable process has not yet been defined, my own view is any such 'extra' value must be brought before the S-122 project team and/or NIPWG (though not necessarily approved by them), and have the support of at least three stakeholders (producers or OEMs) before it can be used.
		+	* If a particular 'other: xyz' type becomes widely used, consideration should be given to making it a listed value via the process for revising the product specification.

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	[[User:Jens\|jens]] ([[User talk:Jens\|talk]]) 07:20, 23 January 2017 (CET) I agree with recreational but have use case problems with heavy lift. So. recreational added to the list		[[User:Jens\|jens]] ([[User talk:Jens\|talk]]) 07:20, 23 January 2017 (CET) I agree with recreational but have use case problems with heavy lift. So. recreational added to the list
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 18:31, 23 January 2017 (CET): OK. Awaiting input on a use case for 'heavy lift' from other NIPWG members.

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	<br>a vessel designed to move very large loads that cannot be handled by normal ships		<br>a vessel designed to move very large loads that cannot be handled by normal ships
	<br>(Wikipedia). See also [[Talk:CATCGO\|CATCGO discussion]].		<br>(Wikipedia). See also [[Talk:CATCGO\|CATCGO discussion]].
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		+	[[User:Jens\|jens]] ([[User talk:Jens\|talk]]) 07:20, 23 January 2017 (CET) I agree with recreational but have use case problems with heavy lift. So. recreational added to the list

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	[[User:Jens\|jens]] 12:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC) We should add "recreation craft", based on discussions and mapping Hirsthals havn		[[User:Jens\|jens]] 12:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC) We should add "recreation craft", based on discussions and mapping Hirsthals havn
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		+	--[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] ([[User talk:Rmm\|talk]]) 08:25, 19 January 2017 (CET): New proposed listed values. (I see Jens had proposed recreation craft in 2011...)
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		+	13: light recreational
		+	<br>a pleasure boat or watercraft, or an excursion vessel used for short cruises such as whale watching
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		+	14: heavy lift
		+	<br>a vessel designed to move very large loads that cannot be handled by normal ships
		+	<br>(Wikipedia). See also [[Talk:CATCGO\|CATCGO discussion]].

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	[[User:Jens\|jens]] 12:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC) We should add "recreation craft", based on discussions and mapping Hirsthals havn		[[User:Jens\|jens]] 12:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC) We should add "recreation craft", based on discussions and mapping Hirsthals havn
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−	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] 21:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC): The work items plan for MPA product spec after SNPWG 17 discussed making this a codelist (presumably an open enumeration), the page needs to be updated accordingly.

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	[[User:Jens\|jens]] 12:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC) We should add "recreation craft", based on discussions and mapping Hirsthals havn		[[User:Jens\|jens]] 12:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC) We should add "recreation craft", based on discussions and mapping Hirsthals havn

−	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] 21:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC): ~~Email~~ discussed making this a codelist (presumably an open enumeration), the page needs to be updated accordingly.	+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] 21:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC): The work items plan for MPA product spec after SNPWG 17 discussed making this a codelist (presumably an open enumeration), the page needs to be updated accordingly.

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	[[User:Jens\|jens]] 12:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC) We should add "recreation craft", based on discussions and mapping Hirsthals havn		[[User:Jens\|jens]] 12:00, 30 August 2011 (UTC) We should add "recreation craft", based on discussions and mapping Hirsthals havn
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		+	[[User:Rmm\|raphael]] 21:42, 2 June 2014 (UTC): Email discussed making this a codelist (presumably an open enumeration), the page needs to be updated accordingly.